31 Americans Killed in Helicopter Shootdown

Simply awful.

 

A military helicopter was shot down in eastern Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. special operation troops, most of them from the elite Navy SEALs unit that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, along with seven Afghan commandos. It was the deadliest single incident for American forces in the decade-long war.

The Taliban claimed they downed the helicopter with rocket fire while it was taking part in a raid on a house where insurgents were gathered in the province of Wardak late Friday. It said wreckage of the craft was strewn at the scene. A senior U.S. administration official in Washington said the craft was apparently shot down by insurgents. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the crash is still being investigated.

via AP Newswire | Stars and Stripes.

10 thoughts on “31 Americans Killed in Helicopter Shootdown”

  1. Some sources are claiming they used an RPG to shoot done the Chinook. I would not be surprised if it was a MANPAD. I’m mildly surprised MANPADs haven’t made an appearance yet. We’d never be able to operate our aviation assets, such as the CH-47, in a non-permissive environment.

    We helped the AFGs run Ivan out by supplying Stinger missiles to the Muj. I could see Putie Put returning the favor. It wouldn’t take many of them either.

    1. if Putin is knowing what is good for him, he would not do so, Russian troops in central asia are after all legit target for the islamists too… on the other hand older style manpads are quite widely dispersed in the 3rd world, so no wonder if someone acquired them for the taleban. still do not underestimate simple rpg, as blackhawk down showed already, helo in hover to deliver spec ops team is a sitting duck

    2. Ewok, I don’t doubt they could have used an RPG. RPGs were used on Choppers in ‘nam, and there’s no reason why they could not have been used in this tragedy. Fact is, we don’t know what was used. We sdo know the Chinook was shot down, however.

      MANPADs are a separate issue. and I’m still mildly surprised they haven’t made an appearance to date, for the reasons given above.

  2. Heard about this while in all-day grassroots training and still feel the ache. Prayers of thanksgiving for those who risked so much for us AND also praying for the grieving families.

  3. Here are the facts and they are easily understood through a simple rudimentary investigation of open source information.

    1. The Igla-S or (Super Needle) is new to the market.
    2. People and groups only want to buy weapons that are proven.
    3. Russia just sold a bunch of Igla-S, SA-24 Grinch, Man-portable air-defense systems to Iran.
    4. Iran supports both Al-Qaeda and the Talib Insurgents.
    5. The geo location allows for disassociation from Iran
    6. The SEALS do not go after anything, but the most dangerous targets.
    7. Eye witnesses in the Stars and Stripes said the rocket that hit the 47 was fired from a hill top.
    8. MANPADS have a larger engagement area when employed from a hill-top.
    9. S&S reported the 47 travelled a long way after hit and before crashing which indicates the 47 was traveling at speed and did not have the ability to conduct an emergency landing (like a 47 that is “just taking off” and has little if no speed)
    10. The biggest indicator of something not smelling right is the DoD is “conducting an investigation” to rule out weather, terrain, or mechanical failure. This doesn’t smell right because when the SEALs assault, they ALWAYS have an overhead platform for command, control, and communications.
    11. The USA routinely “covers-up” things like this like Wiki-Leaks proved, and the tragic Pat Tillman incident. You probably didn’t know an AH-64 was shot down the same night. The 64 was at altitude and even the DoD couldn’t make a wild accusation that an RPG shot-down a 64 at 3,000 feet agl. Look a couple of days before to a couple of days afterward for a couple of CW3s or CW4s dying. The couple of days before to after are not uncommon. In 2004 a platoon was killed in Ghazni while standing on top of a pile of captured ammo. EOD had rigged the pile for destruction and the PSG asked everyone to stand on top for a picture. DoD spread out the deaths over several days.
    12. DoD didn’t learn their lesson with Ms. TIllman did they?
    13. If the world knew MANPADS were in the hands of terrorist, what would happen to the airline industry?
    14. Keep in mind the Igla-S is state of the art and can differentiate between a flare and an engine, it can fire at night, engage a target from the front or rear from 6,000 meters away and altitude 10-3,500, it doesn’t care about IFF or if a plane is carrying children. It can engage UAV, Drones, Cruise missiles, and anything with a heat signature including “stealth.”

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